A Piece of Bitcoin/Internet History

Asuka
  • at this point... we have to start to wonder how many of us will be able to log in...

Jun-21 2011 15:59.
hans
  • i just watched skype tv marks answers if you read between the lines the have lost a lot of data...
Jun-21 2011 16:06.
elments
  • Everyone!

    why do you think the mt gox guys keep stalling for two days now?It takes time to clear out the whole site.  They already postponed several times now. People get worn out.  tell us now that it the claim site will be up as soon as possible instead of giving an actual deadline  just gives them more time to disappear. Which is the only smart move (not nice but smart). Whatever else they do will cause a dissaster for them - either they get sued by the ones who profited from the crash because the rollback nullifies their profits OR from the people who lost money during the crash. Each way they're screwed for the next couple of YEARS.  ALTERNATIVE:  grab as much as you can (which should be quite something for two bachelors considering the money which went into the market the last few months) and drink cocktails in Rio with a nice tanned brasilena. If you were around 30, single and had a shitload of money. Which one would you choose?

Jun-21 2011 16:07.
hans
  • marks said on tv mt goxs opens end of he week
Jun-21 2011 16:11.
elments
  • he also said that the "claim back your account site" would be up and running 30-60 minutes after the show. that was 4,5 hrs ago. 1 + 1= ?

Jun-21 2011 16:17.
Asuka
  • well the https://claim.mtgox.com URL has had something move on with it.

    it went from being denied to now asking for log in credentials.

Jun-21 2011 16:38.
James
  • agreed went to forbiden to redirecting to this support site to asking for login credentials im tired as fuck just let me into my account already ....

Jun-21 2011 16:42.
James
  • i pressume for limited testing after finding all the bugs i just wait for the lulz to come in and hack up the place

Jun-21 2011 16:48.
elments
  • Tried to log in - doesn't work 

Jun-21 2011 16:55.
BitchCoin Express
  • *****

    Tradehill has now posted they will be shutdown for a few days.

    I think BitCoin has been terminated :-(

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Jun-21 2011 17:27.
Krompir
  • @Asuka

     

Jun-21 2011 18:12.
Krompir
  • What a dump site, let me post whole text.

     

Jun-21 2011 18:14.
d Jun-21 2011 18:19.
Krompir
  • @Asuka: I was reading your comments and mate sorry but you're so dump (no ofensse).

    In one of the your comments you said "you are impatient".

    Do you have a mind? Of course will be impatient, people has money there.

Jun-21 2011 18:28.
Hoom P.
  • @d..

    Be patient my friend, as of right now you still can not logg in..

Jun-21 2011 18:50.
J Jun-21 2011 19:50.
Rassah
  • I hope people realize that @elements is just trying to make people panic so they sell their Bitcoin for cheap. He sounds like a lot of trolls currently on the forums that never had anything constructive to say other than "Bitcoin is fake money and is a failure, run run run." It's too bad people like Todd Morrill

Jun-21 2011 21:34.
Rassah
  • It's too bad people like Todd Morrill fell for it and sold, likely at a huge loss. Calm down. There's nothing wrong with Bitcoin itself. Also, the MtGox guys gave out their real names and faces, and the possible $100,000 to $500,000 that they made off their business is nowhere near enough for two 30-somethings to retire anywhere (i.e. elements is just a FUD troll)

Jun-21 2011 21:37.
lasagna
  • @ BitchCoin Expres:

     

    BitCoin is not terminated you fool. Trade hill is one of many sites that  had logins and passes synonymous with those who created accounts there.

    They're just pissing in their pants, as they should be. As for Mt. Gox, after watching the silly webcast, being bullshitted back and forth, I can't wait till you fools open this site up.

    We're all going to withdraw immediatey, and Mt. Gox is now known as NOT a safe place to conduct ANY business. Don't deduct that just because it's an alternate currency...you can still get robbed.

    I do not believe anything Mark says, anything Mt. Gox says, and no longer trust anything having to do with this site. I'm sure many users feel this way. Just bring the site back up so we can get our money out.

    You're jerking off a huge bunch of users who will eventually find a way to sue your ass, and your little bitcoin fortune will go bye bye.

Jun-21 2011 22:03.
elments
  • @ Rassah Shut up you idiot ! You should check the forum and check how much constructive things I had / have to say before posting such nonsense. And if you would have lost a huge pile of money due to mt gox's incompetence you would probably feel the same. There is already a lot of evidence that we have been lied to / not been told the whole truth about what is going on (check the bitcoin forum). Furthermore why is it that not one single time since the flash crash mt gox has kept their word. People with a technical background know exactly how much it takes to do certain things. It is almost two days after the crash and all we got are five 1 to 2 line updates. How do you expect customers who potentially lost their whole savings  at mt gox (which I didn't)  to react?  THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION WHATSOEVER. IF MT GOX WANTS TO KEEP CUSTOMERS CONFIDENT THAT THEY ARE NOT GETTING SCREWED RIGHT NOW THEY SHOULD AT LEAST COMMUNICATE !!! If they don't have to hide anything why don't they post why they postpone all the time. 

Jun-21 2011 22:05.
Funguy
  • @elements I would far rather them give very few updates and actually work on the problem rather than many updates and do nothing.... They did their best to keep the calm and probably thought the solution was easier than it was thus pushed the estimated completion time.  I would far rather them take their time to make it right before opening things up to possible more loss.  And no one is going to be sued because of the rollback, same crap happens in other markets all the time.  Your clearly mad because you thought you were going to make it big on a false market drop, and now your not.  In a disaster situation such as this, any completion time is only an estimate and can vary greatly especially when unforseen complications come up.  And of course they can't tell you EVERYTHING their doing, if they did that would expose them to other possible attacks or intrusions.  Bitcoin is a new currency and should be treated as such and their is a much greater potential for loss.  People putting their money into bitcoin need to understand that they are going into uncharted waters throught with unknown dangers.  Mtgox is not a bank either so storing massive amounts of bitcoin there is foolish.  You know, I probably have lost a good chunk of hard earned cash, not mined bitcoin,  that I put into MtGox but I also understand that there was a higher risk and I took that risk.  elements, If you can't accept the risk of bitcoin, perhaps you should move to something more stable like forex or the stock market......

Jun-21 2011 23:09.
Rassah
  • @elements: "People with a technical background know exactly how much it takes to do certain things."
    People with actual technical backgrounds know that it's next to impossible to predict how long it takes to resolve IT issues.
    @elements: "How do you expect customers who potentially lost their whole savings at mt gox (which I didn't) to react?"
    So, here you basically admit that you're just spreading fear, and have nothing to lose yourself (but plenty to gain from people panicking and selling out). Yes, I've read your forum posts. Your "they're running to Brazil with your money!" theory isn't remotely amusing.
    Mtgox people were live on the phone on sunday night, they were live on video chat last night explaining the situation, and MagicalTux posts frequently on the forums and replies on IRC. Where do you get the idea that "THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION WHATSOEVER?" As I said, FUD.
Jun-21 2011 23:20.
Jeff Harris
  • So Mt.Gox got hosed and is being recreated from scratch. Meanwhile, posers are crying about running to the hills, never doing business here again, moving to another trading source. Guess which exchange will be more secure from having a rewrite in the face of disaster? Anyone care to make a guess as to which exchange will get hacked next? With the Internet and high profile sites, it's not a matter if you will get hacked, it's when. Then, the same trolls will be out bemoaning the demise of bitcoin trading.

    I for one, will keep trading with Mt.Gox because it promises to be more secure than any other exchange, but damn, I'm antsy to see how close my account is to the way I left it.

Jun-21 2011 23:21.
tran son lam
  • yup, me too

    I will stay in MtGox for trading

Jun-21 2011 23:27.
tran son lam
  • yup, me too

    I will stay in MtGox for trading

Jun-21 2011 23:29.
Hoom P.
  • Here's another one staying in Mt. Gox.

    As Jeff says, this will be one of, if not the safest places to trade in Bitcoins...

Jun-21 2011 23:34.
Dennis
  • Oh no, bitcoins are doomed, were all going to loose a shit ton of money, START PANICKING, then sell all of your bitcoins (to me ... for pennies ... lol .. or you can just donate them to me and skip the sale).  I hope mtgox comes back, makes their security better and possibly lowers the transaction fees for trading as a kind gesture for the downtime.   If things dont go back to normal, well shit happens nothing you can really do about it now.  Investing/Trading is kind of like gambling, you could loose it all at any given moment anyways. 

Jun-21 2011 23:40.
Funguy
  • I'll definitely stay with Mt. Gox, but will be a bit more careful about how much BTC is held for lenghthy periods of time within any trade site.  I realy did not have much held in Mt Gox until the night of the problems when I just so happened to bring in some cash to trade with.   Bad luck on this one I say.   On a note to Mt. Gox, you may want to start legal proceedings against your auditors as such a system breach is not acceptable in a job where you deal with sensitive data all the time.  

Jun-21 2011 23:51.
Dennis
  • Ironically the same thing happened to me. I just hopped on this bandwagon and transfered money into the account about 1 day before everything went to hell :(

Jun-21 2011 23:55.
fed up btc sucka
  • Anyone else find it unacceptable that these exchanges are not built with the same kind of encryption and security that banks use? I realize that bitcoin is a digital currency that was created in some college guy's mind but anyone operating a site that deals with this volume of money has a responsibility to their users to keep those funds safe. I hope this time around MtGox takes this responsibility seriously.

Jun-22 2011 00:42.
hans
  • @all guys i had a lot of mails with mark during the last hours - i was telling him the consequences what could possibly happen. last hour i was discussing the scenario wih our lawyers which have a sub in tokyo as well. i can tell you the reverse of the trades seems to be done because he confirmed my cash and even i received confirmation emails day before yesterday the cash side is not bokked. we are deciding now what to do. i had orders placed 2 weeks before because i felt that a crash wold be possible so i bought at 12 10 9 7 5 3 2 1 though i got confirmation by mtgox and they acting as a third party only for me he trades were legal. mark doenst agree. so give them a little credit and everybody has to decide to go for class action or whatever but remember its japan! if i were the guy kevin with 252k bct i surely would do so
Jun-22 2011 00:42.
hans
  • but at least mtgox has to pay if bct opens at 10 and the last course was 17.45 keep you posted
Jun-22 2011 00:46.
hans
  • but at least mtgox has to pay if bct opens at 10 and the last course was 17.45 keep you posted
Jun-22 2011 00:46.
James
  • I get "The password for this account is invalid, or this account is not currently under claim process.

Jun-22 2011 01:15.
Nezz
  • I've been waiting for my first withdraw since June 9th, I've had a ticket open for a week regarding this but had no explanation or resolution. After all this hacking , I wonder if I'll ever see it!

    I live in hope

Jun-22 2011 01:21.
Tran Vu Duc
  • The password for this account is invalid, or this account is not currently under claim process.

    I can't use my old password anymore, what've happend to my account?

Jun-22 2011 01:33.
Hoom P.
  • Be sure to write your current and your previous passwords correctly. I don't know how many times you can try this but I got it right after a few tries..

    Good luck people!

Jun-22 2011 01:37.
Funguy
  • I am getting the same message as many others here.  Seems like my original password has been changed.... I am seriously concerned that anything I had is gone....... I am seriously getting pissed off now.   I have had a ticket open for days now and nothing has happened to the ticket, nowt even acknowlegement that they even know it's there.

Jun-22 2011 01:38.
Neill Roelofse
  • I have the same issue even tho my username/password and email is entered correct.

Jun-22 2011 01:39.
CBH
  • anyone get this??

     

    The new password is not secure enough. Security tips include using special characters, make the password longer, etc...

     

    even tho i input a new and very complex password

Jun-22 2011 01:40.
Tran Vu Duc
  • My password was very strong, 25 characters random by kenpass so I wont't type it, just copy and paste it. There' no way I pasted it wrong :(

Jun-22 2011 01:43.
BlueWall
  • Is anyone having difficulty getting the email from the claim form? I had to submit three different claims with different email addresses and only gmail worked for me.

Jun-22 2011 01:44.
CBH
  • @ Tran Vu Duc

     

    so you got the same msg?

Jun-22 2011 01:44.
nelson
  • yup, all my passwords (old and new) are invalid.

    i guess we have all been scammed folks.

    bring in the lawyers.

Jun-22 2011 01:44.
Tran Vu Duc
  • @CBH

    Yup, "The password for this account is invalid, or this account is not currently under claim process." everytime I try.

Jun-22 2011 01:46.
vickie totherow
  • HMMM I try to enter email address and password and i get a reply that Password is incorrect.  No email for MTGOX     HELP please TIA

Jun-22 2011 01:49.
Nezz
  • Recovery procedure worked fine for me, not seeing any of those errors, only this "Your account recovery request is pending review by our staff."

Jun-22 2011 01:50.
CBH
  • BTCs for lawyers to sue the crap out of them

     

    anyone?

Jun-22 2011 01:52.
Rassah
  • Worked for me. Got a "this password isn't strong enough" the first time, tried something more complex, and it worked fine. Received confirmation e-mail. Now just wait.

Jun-22 2011 01:53.
vickie totherow
  • Good for you Nezz   I am sure I am putting in the right password

Jun-22 2011 01:53.
Rassah
  • @CBH, Sure. You have the $250 to file court papers, or the contact information for the International Court to send the filled out paperwork to?

Jun-22 2011 01:54.
Dennis
  • Worked for me, now i just get to wait.

Jun-22 2011 01:55.
k_v_bitcoins
  • @CBH (and others) I also got the message "The new password is not secure enough. Security tips include using special characters, make the password longer, etc..." although my new password is VERY complex (over 25 chars, lowercase, uppercase, numbers & specials).

    After some trial and error it seemed to require multiple different specials, or maybe some special chars are not accepted (or my typing is very bad).

    However, i did manage to find a complex password that was accepted. My old password (also very complex and long) was also accepted (without any problems). I think i successfully got through the claim procedure.

    So, please dont panic. The password conditions may be somewhat overly strict, but it does work.

     

     

Jun-22 2011 01:59.
Jaron Martin
  • No major problems here once I found a new password it accepted as secure enough.

Jun-22 2011 02:02.
CBH
  • @ Kees van Vliet

     

Jun-22 2011 02:03.
Сергей Свириденко
  • Oh, "The password for this account is invalid, or this account is not currently under claim process.

Jun-22 2011 02:03.
CBH
  • @ Kees van Vliet

     

Jun-22 2011 02:04.
CBH
  • give an example?

Jun-22 2011 02:05.
Josh Shields
  • Recovery seems to have worked for me.

     

    From the looks of it I imagine it will take a very long time for Mt. Gox to sort all of this out. They have to manually verify 60,000 accounts it seems. Those of you having trouble, just wait for the mountain of claims to start going through and I'm sure Mt. Gox will help you. Filing lawsuits certainly will only give them more to deal with, reducing the amount of time they have to work on claims.

Jun-22 2011 02:08.
Rassah
  • I used something like X!L23MA2lW0m

Jun-22 2011 02:08.
Funguy
  • I still get "The password for this account is invalid, or this account is not currently under claim process."

Jun-22 2011 02:09.
Nicholas Caito
  • It just says "The password for this account is invalid, or this account is not currently under claim process.

Jun-22 2011 02:10.
Funguy
  • No matter the info correct or not, I still get the same bloody response that info is wrong or not under claim process.  Ticking me way off!

Jun-22 2011 02:12.
CBH
  • ok yes the system does work but the passwords has to be super complex to the point, you better write it down or you can never remember it.

     

     

Jun-22 2011 02:20.
Asuka
  • It took me a couple tries.  But I got it. just waiting verification now.

    and @kompir make sure if you are going to insult someone's intelligence, you can at least type some very basic words into a sentence.  and not confuse dumb with dump.  Thank you.  See you all in the market!

Jun-22 2011 02:20.
Nicholas Caito
  • To all those in a panic: You don't need Mt. Gox *or* TradeHill. Not yet, at least. If you honestly believe in Bitoins, then you need to understand this is a marathon, not a race. Don't be in a hurry to cash out now. If you have coins, hold on to them. If you want coins, join a mining pool. These trade sites will get sorted out, eventually. No one knows if Bitcoins will be worth it in the end, so you shouldn't worry if things are a little crazy for a few days.

Jun-22 2011 02:21.
刘少俊
  • It just says "The password for this account is invalid, or this account is not currently under claim process.

     

    Because hacker has changed it.

Jun-22 2011 02:21.
Nicholas Caito
  • @刘少俊

    How could a hacker change it if no one could log in?

Jun-22 2011 02:22.
Funguy
  • @刘少俊  Your a POS for saying that kind of thing that.  Especially because you have no fucking clue about what has happened.  Stop speculating and blabbing it.

Jun-22 2011 02:24.
Neill Roelofse
  • ye I call bullshit on the hacker changed anything, I was live trading up to the point it all went down and my account wasnt touched.

    If anything got touched, it was after the service went down which would make no sense.

Jun-22 2011 02:25.
刘少俊
  • My situation is this!!!

    17.5$/BTC

Jun-22 2011 02:29.
刘少俊
  • My password and email has been changed before 0.01$/BTC

Jun-22 2011 02:30.
Stephane
  • Be patient, the dream is not ended ... everything is going to be ok ... let them do their job ...

Jun-22 2011 02:31.
Tran Vu Duc
  • @刘少俊 : Same here !!

    But mine were changed some hours before 0.01$/BTC, try to recover and it said "no email" :(.

Jun-22 2011 02:34.
Lennart Stolpe
  • Getting "The password for this account is invalid, or this account is not currently under claim process

Jun-22 2011 02:37.
J
  • Recovery procedure worked fine for me, not seeing any of those errors, only this "Your account recovery request is pending review by our staff."

    So now begins the waiting time, really hope for all users of MT Gox that you can go into your account soon good luck to all!

Jun-22 2011 02:40.
Funguy
  • They need to extend the time for people to get their accounts back, especially with the problems with the claim process.

Jun-22 2011 02:44.
刘少俊
  • @Tran Vu Duc

    I have not logged in those few hoursCan't login, try to recover and it said "no email"

Jun-22 2011 02:47.
Brian Wolfe
  • As per the hitchhiker's guide says in bright yellow letters.... DON'T PANIC

Jun-22 2011 03:05.
Funguy
  • Hey why can't we get a response for those of us who are having issues with the claim process..........    We do not even know if Mark is aware of the issues people are having!

Jun-22 2011 03:06.
Neill Roelofse
  • Ive spoken to him on irc, hes going to add an extra option so those of us(including me) can get around this reported issue.

Jun-22 2011 03:08.
Funguy
  • Thanks for the update Neill :)

Jun-22 2011 03:09.
Funguy
  • Claim site is uber slow......  Either overloaded or being modified......

Jun-22 2011 03:27.
hans
  • guys if it says ... IS NOT CURRENTLY UNDER... means you need NOT to do anything you will be able to login after mtgox better if opens. mine was UNDER.... and it worked out.
Jun-22 2011 04:08.
Neill Roelofse
  • @hans - I have no idea what you mean with that? How do you know your account is fine since mtgox isnt up yet and claiming process is still underway ?

Jun-22 2011 04:10.
hans
  • because mark confirmed correct amount of btc and cash but my trades had been canceled. so i guess the account which traded need to be reconfirmed and all ohers not.
Jun-22 2011 04:13.
Neill Roelofse
  • @hands - so mark told you that if that error appears it means your account will be usable as it were (password unchanged?) once mtgox goes online ? that makes no sense, how can I make sure to change my old pass(even tho it was fairly secure) 

Jun-22 2011 04:14.
hans
  • no i had emal contact and authorized myself via a copy of deposit by my bank, anyhow.... problems are time for mtgox to be online, canceled trades a policy i totally disagree and may sue mtgox as well losing a few days with he course falling.
Jun-22 2011 04:18.
hans
  • @neil do you understand??? claim side! you haven not traded that day, true? so NOT UNDER etc.
Jun-22 2011 04:21.
Lord Fog
  • I did trade that day and Im still not able to get past that massage.

Jun-22 2011 04:25.
hans
  • in that specific period?
Jun-22 2011 04:26.
Lord Fog
  • yep,buyed some btc after the downfall

Jun-22 2011 04:27.
hans
  • maybe i was just lucky worked 1st try
Jun-22 2011 04:29.
Sean
  • Can you guys assist me in getting to https://claim.mtgox.com/

    in my browser (chrome) it just seems to be waiting for a response and nothing gets displayed, I'd like to recover my account as soon as humanly possible

     

    I appreciate an immediate response if possible, thank you 

Jun-22 2011 04:30.
Lord Fog
  • So how do I make sure Im not in that claim thing nor thomething is wong?

Jun-22 2011 04:31.
Neill Roelofse
  • @ hans - I did sell btc and made withdrawal to libertyreserve(thats obviously stalled during this whole process) on the day of the meltdown. I didnt have open trades however ?

Jun-22 2011 04:32.
Neill Roelofse
  • Just to clarify, my sell of btc and withdrawal was way before the crash on the day.

Jun-22 2011 04:33.
Lord Fog
  • server is possibly under heavy load, try again and again

Jun-22 2011 04:33.
hans
  • @sean lets try live post if you are ready
Jun-22 2011 04:33.
Jens Heise
  • *lol* looks like they're DDoSing themselves..... anyway, staying here too :)

Jun-22 2011 04:52.
 

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